We are talking about my sins. I mean, indirectly. I was coming around to it.

[ A very manufactured sort of earnestness settles over Hickey's face; he leans in to explain, seemingly unbothered by Irving's tenseness. ]

If I knew someone who was grappling with these same inclinations, and had come out on the other side of it, I might have faith that I could manage to rehabilitate myself. How can you help me if I don't trust that it's something you might understand? It's just logic.