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TDM #36


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« « « ALL ON DISPLAY


It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Yet, solace is found in the lies we tell each other, comforted by the peace of knowing that we're not alone in our depravity, and once on this path, sin itself becomes the lesser of two evils masked in a cloud of normalcy.

This is how Duplicity has functioned since the beginning. The divide of power and social standing is overt in that Dominants influence the decisions made both publicly and privately while Submissives cater to the rules presented to them. It is the way of Duplicity to assign random designations at birth with no leeway in altering what has been given. Climate in the Up is far stricter than that of the Down; violating outlined personas for a Dominant or Submissive while in full view of others is punished by degree of infraction. In the Down, many tend to turn a blind eye to these sorts of offenses.

To counteract the discovery of the deceit gene – a natural "negative" response to all stimuli – the LIEs program was founded. The program had been designed to introduce new subjects to the current environment and test for the deceit gene through immersion in Duplicity's standing society. Sexual impulses and encounters increase the chances of detecting the gene within these individuals. Participants are typically released from LIEs after a year; however, results have remained unsatisfactory and testing still continues.

... and you're here! Finally! Welcome to Duplicity.

After choosing a door and stepping through to the other side, the first thing that greets you are the enthusiastic faces of people in medical scrubs and pristine lab coats. Their enthusiasm translates to eagerness as they strip you of your clothes to perform a thorough examination—you will be healed, bathed, and given a paper gown to wear until your items can be processed and delivered to your residence later in the evening. You are also given a device that accesses the network as well as the time and location of Orientation.

If you enter Duplicity into the Up, congratulations! You're a Dominant, which means you are immediately picked up by a limo after processing and taken to your high-rise. Here, it is two Dominants per floor with separate apartments. If you enter Duplicity into the Down, congratulations! You're a Submissive, which means you are directed towards public transportation with the address of the motel you'll be living in. Here, it is two Submissives per room with a shared common space for all rooms.

Submissives are provided with a plain black pleather collar to wear and Dominants are given bracelets made of the same black pleather. The simple design is an immediate visual indicator that they have not yet signed a contract and they will be informed that more elaborate or personalized styles are a privilege reserved for those who do.

Enjoy your free time until Orientation! Participation is mandatory for all new and past arrivals.

Spring rains are in full force. It's wet out there.



» » » ALL ABOARD




After stepping through the door and participating in Orientation, LIERs are assembled together in the Up for a tour of Duplicity in its entirety. Seats are in pairs and randomly assigned to Dominants and Submissives alike. Traveling from Fiddler's Square, the train journeys through various parts of the Up, showcasing society and examples of lifestyle. Along the way, frequent stops are made; a variety of passengers can be seen exiting and entering the doors. A Dominant with a kneeling Submissive takes a seat near the front of the train at one stop. A small group of Submissives board and sit closer to the LIERs at another, all seemingly content in their roles. As the tour continues through the Up, the train passes close to the Market and White Wall Bridge and zips by North Park before heading into the Down and bypassing Red Wall Bridge and South Park.

The train makes a "final" stop at Riddler's Square, where inhabitants of the Down are instructed to return to their temporary housing. Those who live in the Up are permitted to stay on the train and revisit the same locations while returning.



« « « RAIN RAIN GO AWAY



(cw: clothing destruction/public nudity, altered mental states, suggestibility)

While the pleasant spring weather has finally taken hold of Duplicity, this also means there's rain in the forecast. A rather large storm is on track to hit the city, and, in preparation for the deluge of water that will be hitting city streets, LIEs has decided to provide all new Submissives with their very own umbrella to use at Orientation. There's just one catch, however — to use these umbrellas, Submissives must share them with a Dominant.

The timing is quite fortunate, too, for as soon as Orientation wraps up, the rain begins. Those who have been in the city long enough will remember that these storms have a way of lingering longer than initially predicted. The rain is also a bit on the acidic side, with the unfortunate side effect of dissolving any fabric it comes into direct contact with. Better use that umbrella unless you want to walk the streets wet and in the nude. Fortunately, the umbrellas are just big enough for two people to fit underneath together — so long as they're willing to cuddle in close.

Pairs who deign to share their umbrella will find that, the longer they huddle together beneath it, the more amicable to one another they'll become. More than that, however, each designation will be affected in a distinct way. Dominants will begin experiencing a stronger instinct to be more spontaneous, making spur-of-the-moment suggestions or shirking off the remainder of their responsibilities for the day. For Submissives, however, this means greater suggestibility, especially those who are often quieter, more reserved, or even more repressed in nature. Deciding to do something spontaneous, especially something you'd never choose normally, seems a little less daunting when someone else has come up with the idea. Maybe today is a good day to let the rain wash away the rest of your plans so you can spend as much time as possible with your umbrella partner before the clouds retreat.



» » » PLUGGING LEAKS


(cw: altered mental states, suggestibility, increased libido)

Thanks to the rain, the Down is uncomfortably wet, and much of the shoddy and crumbling infrastructure is especially prone to leaks and even flooding. The city-provided Submissive housing isn't immune to these issues, and LIEs, being ever so "helpful," are handing out free buckets, duct tape, and an assortment of varyingly useful tools to patch up the leaks and clear out water. It's up to newcomers and other LIERs who might be living in the Down to deal with the problem themselves.

Chatter begins to swirl in the Up — it's that time of year again, where those who are looking for an easy contract should take advantage of the desperation of those dealing with less-than-ideal living conditions in the Down. Whether these good samaritans wish to go into the Down to help out is up to them, of course, but the rumors aren't unfounded. Prolonged exposure to the runoff water in the Down, courtesy of all that flooding, leaves Submissives feeling particularly desperate and keen to please, unable to help throwing themselves at the first Dominant they see. Willing to do anything is an understatement, and those under the influence are incredibly susceptible, perhaps even easily manipulated into going along with whatever a Dominant may suggest, even if it's something they would normally object to. It also doesn't help that Submissives are needy in other ways too, as if a switch has been flipped for their libido. Some may even find themselves physically wet and ready to get it on.



« « « SLEEP UNDER THE STARS


(cw: potential transactional sex)

With the provided Submissive housing being rather miserable and soggy, despite attempts to patch leaks and keep things dry, LIEs has taken pity on the newcomers and provided them a drier alternative.

On the edge of the woods in the Up, there are a series of tents that have been set up for uncontracted Submissives to use if they wish, but the conditions there aren't much better by comparison. Amenities are, understandably, meager, with each tent only containing one sleeping bag and pillow apiece. There are a few old pots and utensils available if individuals want to attempt to cook over a campfire, but beyond that they're on their own.

Submissives in search of a nicer place to sleep for an evening or two have the option to perform acts of service for a Dominant, who, in return, will be permitted to purchase them a stay at a nearby hotel at a discount. Dominants are encouraged to offer their services for Submissives who wish to comply. If Dominants are feeling extra generous, they can invite these soggy Subs to stay with them instead for a short duration — although the expectation from LIEs is that a contract will be signed by the end of this temporary sleepover, of course.



» » » MOD & OOC NOTES



Please read carefully.

On each Test Drive Meme, there will be a section noting character roles; these will vary each TDM. On an IC level, characters will still have gone through the doors but the assignments are OOCly randomized. When applying, there is a section of the application that denotes whether the character chooses "left" or "right." When participating on the TDM, there will be a third option. Players may link either a top level or a thread (five or more comments from their character) from the TDM and title the link as "Door Pass." This means that the player is choosing to take the designation that they were randomly assigned on the TDM, rather than taking the designation of a door. If the player decides to select a door rather than use the pass, then they are trying their luck; they may get the same designation they had on the TDM or the opposite. Once the application is submitted, players can't change their choice.

To assign roles to characters for this TDM, use the following guide:

All new arrivals on this TDM are Submissive.

To Note: Characters can only swap their designation for one of the following reasons: an event occurs that allows it or there are OOC reasons that make it a necessity. Any swap always requires mod approval and each character can only ever switch once. Characters that are being reapped will keep their previous designation but players can choose to tag on new TDMs with different designations for fun!

Test Drive threads can be used as activity proofs for characters currently in-game.

Please remember to mark any necessary content, and have fun!!




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[personal profile] purpler 2024-05-14 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think I could've guessed that the BDSM sex dystopia creator was a guy. The whole place is like a redpill fantasy on steroids. [ Kate leans against a ladder that leads up higher still, to a metal structure that might be a water tank. She looks down at the bow in her hand, then tips her head to one side, frowning. ] Hey, you have more than one arrow, right?

[ She can't see his quiver from this angle, can't remember if it looked full or not. Hopefully he has more than the solitary arrow rattling around in her own quiver. ]
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[personal profile] westcoasts 2024-05-14 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
( he doesn't have many, but he has a handful (as it were), and he shrugs off the quiver and holds it out for kate to take. for his part, he's now more interested in seeing what kate can do than he is in "proving his superiority", or however this had started. he knows he'd made a stupid comment and had then proceeded to double down by being petty. not exactly the height of maturity that needs topping off with doing what he's already done with (one) kate.

—and besides, this is different. there's no lingering question about whether it's okay for kate — or kids like her — to be running around with weapons and powers. it's not something that'd be his first choice, strictly speaking — there'd been a reason why one of his conditions for the younger thunderbolts even being thunderbolts was "go to fucking school" — but it's going to happen. has happened and will happen, and the worst thing any of them can do is abandon them. leave them to it without any help at all, because they will need it.

(not all of the time, and that was the problem—.) )


You know I've already done this, right? ( he questions, eyeing her before deciding to sit down on the ground, legs dangling over the side of the building. ) When I said I wasn't happy about— ( he waves a hand. ) Someone I'd never met, never even heard of, being given my bow, I told her she could keep it if she beat me with it. I picked up some $200 piece of junk for me to use to prove a point.

( a breath of a pause, and he doesn't say who won. he doesn't think he needs to, and he doesn't say that he'd taken it afterwards just to mess with her, just to see what she did, that he hadn't planned on keeping it. if steve had thought she was good, he'd wanted to see it.

he looks down. starts counting pedestrians, then— )


If he's me and you're you, I figure you've done enough to prove yourself already. There's a couple of SIN guards down there, by the way.
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[personal profile] purpler 2024-05-14 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Who says I want to prove myself? Maybe I just really felt like kicking your ass.

[ There is what she says and then what she doesn't, because it does mean something. It shouldn't, she only met this version of Clint today, she has no reason to value his opinion. He's right, she already got the approval she needs; the other Clint calling her the world's greatest archer, verbatim.

But it means something. It eases a knot that's been twisting itself up inside of Kate since he started implying that she wasn't Kate enough. "He's me and you're you" is a welcome change of tune.

Kate looks very pleased when Clint hands her his quiver; she didn't even have to do the whole "our arrows" bit. She takes one out and examines it closely, then drops it back in and flicks between the rest, eyes peeled for any potential trick arrows. A quick peer over the ledge at the guards he indicated, then back to the quiver. ]


Got any Pyms in here?

[ She is thinking of the shrinking ones but she isn't truly picky. In fact, she would admittedly feel a certain amount of schadenfreude to see this place brought down by Godzilla-sized sex cops. ]
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[personal profile] westcoasts 2024-05-14 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
( he tilts his head back and then leans back, arms reaching behind, palms pressing into the dirty, damp roof. he can't see all of her from this angle, but he can see enough. more to the point, he can hear her. she says she just wants to kick his ass and, really, isn't that the same thing? if it didn't bother her, she wouldn't have said it — or at least, that's how he would've felt about the matter, and it hasn't escaped his notice that they're not wholly dissimilar.

he weighs her question up instead of commenting on that.

he doesn't have any shrinking arrows — the only pym particles he's ever used have done the opposite, mostly for his stint as goliath, and he turns his head to one side in a vain, vague attempt to look at his quiver. )
No, ( he answers. not based off the weights of the arrows he does have. ) Think there's a sonic, a putty, and a net in there.

( and it's punctuated by a pause, questioning, before— ) —Goliath?
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[personal profile] purpler 2024-05-14 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I was actually thinking Godzilla, but sure, let's go with the well read version. [ She answers in a breezy voice, confidently assuming he was asking about her idea and not whether she knows about that time he got lost in the Pym sauce. ]

Ooh, a net could be fun. [ She starts pulling arrows up for a closer look. ]
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[personal profile] westcoasts 2024-05-14 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never read a book in my life, Kate, let's not make up stories here. ( —he has, although in the right mood for it, he'd pretend that the bookshelves in his apartment are for display only. it's a rare person that gets the admission he read at the orphanage, and that his love of cowboy movies started with a love of western pulp novels. ) Godzilla's trademarked, I'd never have been allowed to call myself that.

( is godzilla trademarked? he has no idea, actually. )

—You're taking your sweet time, Kate. By the time you've settled on an arrow, these guards'll have died of old age. ( a beat, and deliberately— ) Besides, you know what they say: it ain't the tool, it's the person.
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[personal profile] purpler 2024-05-14 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Why would you call yourself Godzilla? [ She wonders while her eyes dart back and forth between two arrows. ] That definitely won't help you beat those Japanese appropriation allegations.

[ Finally, Kate selects and nocks her arrow, then starts lining up her shot. ] Yeah? What do they say when you're a person who's a tool? [ She does a decent job of masking how proud she is of that one, the smirk mostly hidden behind her fist where she's pulling the bowstring. She has to wait until both guards are in place, halfway through the revolving door into the lobby of one of the taller, shinier, and no doubt more exclusive buildings. Her shot is timed so the arrow flies into the minuscule gap where the door swings up to the wall, detonating a payload of thick putty into the narrow wedge of space left for both guards to occupy. As she hoped, the putty spills into every available crevice including the spaces around and under the glass doors, grinding the revolving mechanism to a halt and leaving the guards stuck inside their little glass triangle, knee deep in purple goo. ]
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[personal profile] westcoasts 2024-05-15 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't, but you seem to think Godzilla and Goliath are equal despite one of them being a man and one of them being a dinosaur. Despite one of 'em being a cult classic and the other being a tale of biblical proportions in many, many ways. ( he not so much answers as replies, shifting his weight to sit upright as kate nocks her arrow.

shifts his weight as she comes out with a smart-ass retort and he's kind of proud of her for that one too. that was good, and he entirely misses her smirk as his gaze rests on guards. it's a good shot, of course it is, that wasn't really ever in doubt, and it's kind of funny, too. even from here, it's easy to see that very particular mix of confusion and anger that's just so cathartic (to witness).

slowly, he looks back to kate and answers her jab. )
And I dunno that either, Kate, but I've met a few people who'd say you call them 'Barton'. ( clint or barney, does it really matter? being an ass is apparently genetic.

deliberately, he doesn't say anything about the shot. does she want him to? could just be considered condescending, it's not like he comments on kate's shots all that much. )
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[personal profile] purpler 2024-05-15 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
Both big. [ She says by way of explanation that explains nothing. She sounds distracted; her attention is on the scene unfolding at ground level, basking in the afterglow of a perfect shot. More than just the shot, it's the spirit of defiance that she suddenly feels high on. Everything happening down there is proof that Kate Bishop got one over on this place that has her in a vice.

Sure, this looks bad. But it isn't hopeless. ]


What's the best shot you ever took? [ The question pops into her mind one second and spills from her mouth the next. Back in her world, Clint had a very sentimental answer but something tells her not to expect the same here. Not that she minds— she really wants the actual, technical answer. ]
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[personal profile] westcoasts 2024-05-15 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
( clint is sentimental, he's just not very good at expressing it. he's selective, and choosy about where and when and how, but it's there in his actions if someone knows him enough, if they know what to look for. every weapon he chooses to use is chosen for sentimentality — swords for jacques, the bow for chisholm, staff and nunchuks for bobbi.

but he doesn't have an answer ready to go for that question, not a sentimental one and not a technical one.

he pulls a face, mouth dipping momentarily. you're asking the guy that doesn't miss what his best shot is? is what part of him is tempted to throw at her. it's what anyone else would get — bucky, steve, sam. but it's kate, and he thinks of how he'd told her that the only wasted shots are the ones you don't take.

so— )
I dunno if Mr. Wife-and-Three-Kids has the same sort of history as me, but I started off as a criminal. ( he hadn't meant to, it'd just kind of happened, but—. ) Saw Iron Man one day, and it annoyed me — some guy in a flashy suit, and I figured if he could do that with what he had going on, I could do it too. So I tried joining the Avengers.

( he doesn't look at her, just continues watching the unfolding scene below. their pair of stuck guards have friends now, and bystanders. it's interesting, he thinks, that none of the natives (he assumes they're natives, anyway) seem to hold much ill-will towards the guards. that'll be a problem. )

Shockingly, they didn't take some carnie kid seriously, so I had to get practical. ( a beat, wryly— ) Jarvis helped. That's why I always get him the good tea.

( he lifts his shoulders. it's not quite a shrug, not really. )

I don't miss, Kate. The only shots that are bad ones are the ones you don't take.
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[personal profile] purpler 2024-05-15 12:07 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Okay, that is... still not the technical answer that she was looking for. This makes her two-for-two on initiating what she thinks is standard archery shop talk and instead getting the forbidden Hawkeye lore direct from the source. Not that she would ever complain, but it is something of a two nickels situation: not a lot, but funny that it happened twice. ]

Hey, wait, that's really good. You need to put that on some merch. [ She wags her index finger, pointing from his head to his toes. ] Clearly you've figured out your brand. I can't say that for the other you.

Anyway, you're overthinking it. The answer can be any shot you were proud of, or that stayed with you or whatever. It doesn't mean you missed the other ones. [ Dramatic. The ego. (Pot, kettle.)

With that out of the way, she barrels into a change of subject with all the subtlety of, well, a Hawkeye. ]
Circling back to what you were saying: criminal? Carnie?
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[personal profile] westcoasts 2024-05-15 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Spent a lot of time around Cap, I know what a good speech sounds like.

( the problem with the question, really, is that clint doesn't catalogue his shots like that. there isn't a veritable list of THINGS CLINT BARTON IS PROUD OF, the ones — the actual, literal shots — that have stuck with him are the ones he regrets. like killing bruce. like putting moonstone (karla) in a coma. both had seemed like the right thing to do in the moment, the best option in the face of more, worse options, but hindsight being hindsight, he's certain that there are options that would've been better.

ones that he wouldn't hate himself a little bit for making. )


But like I said — Jarvis. Tied him up and shot three arrows at him as a demonstration. ( not wow worthy, not as far as hawkeye(s) are concerned, but it did the job. then, a flicker of consideration, and— ) Did a one-armed shot once.

( that was cool. that took effort.he wasn't convinced he was going to pull it off, either.

he lets her 'circling back' thing sit as he scoots back away from the edge and turns towards her. well, it's nice to know that other him had a very different life from start through to now—. )


Carnie. ( he repeats, studying her. speaking of having a brand) Hawkeye's the name I came up with for my shows.
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[personal profile] purpler 2024-05-15 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you tie up an A.I.? [ Kate asks, not skeptical, just curious. (Not judgmental, either, because she immediately thinks back to nearly stabbing Jack in the face to prove her point and understands. Sometimes being taken seriously requires drastic measures.)

Her eyebrows stitch together in concentration as she extends her arm holding the bow and tries to envision the logistics of firing with one arm. She lifts a leg to test if resting the bow against her thigh is the trick. ]


I feel like I just found your Rosetta Stone. Really puts your people skills into perspective.
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[personal profile] westcoasts 2024-05-15 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
( he gives her an odd look when she questions tying up an ai and clarifies, almost immediately— ) Jarvis is human. ( equally unjudgemental, but very much in the manner of someone that's slotting some kind of information away and to one side — and even if he'd had more to say on the matter, even if there was something more to ask, he's immediately distracted by kate half-attempting to work out how a one-armed shot works.

—and if, if he'd been going to comment on that, it's cut off by her comment about his people skills.

(excuse.) )
Hey! What's wrong with my people skills? I've been voted the most popular Avenger before. ( fifth or sixth, actually, but—. details. ) People love me.
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[personal profile] purpler 2024-05-15 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Kate laughs in a way that says, "Yeah, right?" She laughs like it's obvious, like he'll get it, he's in on the joke. Because Kate is very much an outlier in her love for Hawkeye, and even she is self-aware enough to know that a significant percentage of that was cemented as a trauma response during the alien invasion. In the most helpless moment of her life, she sees Hawkeye, just a normal guy fighting aliens with a stick and string, and she makes her mom buy her a bow. As with the rest of her: not subtle.

She gets the same response any time she tells people that Hawkeye is her favorite Avenger. That "Oh how funny, surely you're not serious" laugh. So Clint claiming that Hawkeye could get the popular vote? That's an obvious gag. That's low-hanging fruit. Voted sixth, sure. Out of six.

But then it occurs to her that Clint might not be joking. He has figured out the branding and that is no small part of it. He is also, to put it diplomatically, more photogenic than her world's Clint. That matters in a popularity contest. ]


Wait, were you being serious?
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[personal profile] westcoasts 2024-05-15 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
( it's easy not to be offended because he thinks it's clear it's not about him, it's about her not-a-carnie, possibly-a-better-husband hawkeye. the one of the two of them that might have managed, he thinks, to get his shit together a little more than clint (dad, not divorced, he might get over that eventually—), but on the flipside, clint's aware that being as good as he is, is about sacrifice.

he's sacrificed a lot to be an avenger. to have his own team. sacrificed a lot for the thunderbolts. he'd equated leading a team with being in a marriage — that is, hadn't called it being in a marriage at all, hadn't called it a partnership, had instead spoken about leading that too, and he's sure that if he'd had more give in him then, if he'd sacrificed what he'd wanted with being a leader, with proving himself to steve and everyone else who'd questioned him—

(himself.)

he'd still have a marriage, probably.
and because he doesn't have that, he decides it all has to be worth it.

so he eyes her and stands, dusts — a little bit — some of the dirt from his hands and his pants. presses his lips into a line and concedes, totally unabashed— )


—Well, fifth maybe. ( then, for clarity, like he knows what she'd been thinking, like he knows she'd say it— ) Don't think it included reservists. Not bad going for a guy the public despised when he first became an Avenger. ( he answers in lieu of a 'yes'.

and then the rest of the differences, perhaps, are that clint doesn't think of it as branding, it's just part and parcel of who he is. he'd started off with a fringed suede jacket and fringed suede pants, and from there it'd been the purple and the blue. it'd all been a choice, and it kind of bothers him these days that most of them have dropped the flashier outfits. it bothers him that his now feels like it could belong to the military or some acronym, purple aside. it annoys him that his attempts to bring back the classic costume for the new thunderbolts was met with a "no, marketing—".

in spite of that, though, in spite of it all— )
Definitely got 'most handsome'. Never got told how much crossover the two votes got.

( a little slyly, then, as a thought registers in his features. ) —Sorry, girlie, it sounds like your Hawkeye has some catching up to do, but we all win some and we all lose some.
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[personal profile] purpler 2024-05-15 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
He doesn't care about catching up. His whole thing is being low key and forgettable. [ If he can hear some frustration in her voice, it's because Kate is the one with any investment in establishing the Hawkeye name and Clint's clandestine habits make it an uphill climb. Hawkeye wasn't even purple until she came along.

She drops a hand to rest on her hip and tilts her head to one side while she studies Clint. ]


It's hard to believe you're supposed to be versions of the same person.

[ The unspoken punchline: that he is anything but low key and forgettable and she can tell after only a few hours in his company. ]
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[personal profile] westcoasts 2024-05-15 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
( he can't quite decide if that's comforting or not, the idea that he's that different to another version of him, not when kate isn't that different. the similarities are there, of course — she's a little less intense than kate, a little less assured, he thinks — there are hints of it, but he doesn't know how much of that is kate-being-kate, and how much of that is circumstances. is her upbringing.

—but then there's the question of if she's talking about clint barton or hawkeye. the two are different, even for him. clint barton lives in a not-that-great apartment building in bed-stuy. clint barton liked it because no-one recognised him as hawkeye or if they did, they didn't care because they had enough going on in their lives already. )


—Maybe that's what getting old does to you. ( horrifying, although the old-him he's met before hadn't exactly been low key. old-him had been better than him, despite the — everything. )

You're not that different. ( his gaze shifts sideways and rests on lucky. ) Nor's he.
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[personal profile] purpler 2024-05-16 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Kate would argue that it's just her because she is a make-your-own-fate type of person. Without enough details or context about the other Kate, she wouldn't know that how they stack up is a case study in nature versus nurture. Nature accounts for most things being the same: the Kate-being-Kate of it all. Nurture accounts for the differences, a developmental case study: younger sister versus only child; aloof dad versus helicopter mom; learned from hard knocks versus hasn't been knocked that hard.

She follows his gaze over to Lucky, the very picture of bliss in ignorance. Suddenly, she regrets judging people who make small talk about wishing they had it as easy as domesticated pets. Having no concept of man-made hierarchies would really hit right about now. ]


So, you said space isn't your thing. What about other dimensions? First rodeo or been there, done that?
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[personal profile] westcoasts 2024-05-16 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
( it's a jump away from any conversation about her, and clint doesn't miss the swerve. it's not enough of a jump — other dimensions and all that — that it can't be said to be off the topic, that it can't be said the two aren't linked, but it's still noticeable. he doesn't comment, but the fact that he thinks it's something flickers in his features — a quick, darting frown — and then it's gone. )

Been there, done that a few times. Time travel, too. ( a beat. ) I figure you'd've mentioned if you'd done— ( he gestures broadly at their surroundings. ) This a few times.

—Still prefer sticking to Earth, by the way, not that choice really plays into it.
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[personal profile] purpler 2024-05-16 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
[ It's true that Kate meant to move away from talking about herself. He says she and the other Kate aren't that different but that's because Kate has deliberately allowed Clint's familiarity with the other Kate to inform is impression of her. She wants to keep existing in this space where Clint treats her like they are on the same level when in reality she just stepped onto the playing field.

And so, swerve. ]


Were you also the lab rat for time travel? I heard you, the other you, volunteered to test the time machine for the Time Heist. [ A beat, during which she gives him a Yeah, I know look. ] I think Ant-Man coined the term, not— it wasn't me.
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[personal profile] westcoasts 2024-05-16 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
( she asks if he was the lab rat for time travel, and it recontextualises not everything, but enough. it tells him — whether she meant it to or not — that the avengers are new to this, relatively speaking because who talks about any of it as being lab rats? kang, doom, reed, (fucking kang—). the "blip" like it's some kind of THING and not just another week — sucky and shitty, sure, but nothing none of them haven't (hadn't) dealt with before.

that's not to say that his thoughts about it are deliberately insensitive — it'd be a little different, say, if it was a topic he had a lot of feelings about (no slim pickings there, but—.)

not carefully, not delicately, then, his gaze fixes on her. narrows a little— )
Which Ant-Man? Hank? Lang? O'Grady? Please tell me it wasn't O'Grady because he's totally the worst Ant-Man and we all know it. ( it's deliberate, pointed, a little dickish and he knows it. ) How long have you guys been doing this?
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[personal profile] purpler 2024-05-16 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Kate, who always, always has something to say, comes up empty. She opens her mouth, ready to fire back, but her brain fails to load the ammunition.

The answer for The Avengers is a decade and some change. Her answer is barely a fraction of that. She doesn't want to admit either. ]


Lang. [ She says blankly, not meeting his eyes despite how badly she wants to glare. ] And we don't "all know it" because nobody cares about ranking Ant-Men.

[ Except that maybe they do. Maybe where he's from, Ant-Man is like Captain America and people actually care who wears the helm. Maybe she just dug herself in even deeper. At the end of the day, it still ends in Y. ]
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[personal profile] westcoasts 2024-05-16 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Wrong answer. ( is it? hank and clint have history, at least — janet, between the two of them (not like that), and the west coast avengers — not that hank had been a member, but he'd been there in the early days. he'd been around, and he'd been there for greer, before everything, before the skrulls—. ) Everyone ranks the Ant-Men, even if they're not doing it consciously. ( because hank's past stuck to him—. )

You didn't answer the question, Kate. Your Avengers, they're a new team?
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[personal profile] purpler 2024-05-16 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
New relative to what? [ Asks Kate, just to be difficult. Clint already knows the answer, it's just up to her to admit it. She means to drag her feet every step of the way. ] Technically everything is new compared to, like, the sun.

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